Insanity in Islam?

O.K. Please, I really don’t want death threats from anyone because I’ve possibly made an offhand comment about Islam or provided material that doesn’t agree with your views.

Now that that’s out of the way….

I am completely baffled as to how Islamic logic works. Let me get all of my references out of the way first:

Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Theo van Gogh

and Lars Vilks

Let me start at the top and end with the most recent thing I’ve read.

My point:
Does Islam think the best way to get respect is with Ãœber violence?

Why I ask this:
Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Theo van Gogh make a documentary about the abuse of Muslim women. Submission is it’s name. You can watch it here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=846339861805446088

As soon as it is released on Dutch TV, Ayaan has to be protected by the Dutch government for fear of being murdered by Islamic fundamentalists and Theo gets murdered in the street like a dog because they’ve brought to light what happens to enslaved Muslim women!

Tally so far in the name of freedom of speech – 1 dead, 1 in protection

Fast forward to today where I learned of Lars Vilks. Lars Vilks is Swedish artist who drew a caricature of the Prophet Mohammed with the body of a dog. Albeit a purposely directed religious parody towards Muslims, but he doesn’t direct his works only towards Muslims. He equally attacks every religion and has been doing it for a good 30 years now.

Here are the pictures that he’s drawn:
Caricature 1:
Lars Vilk - Prophet Mohammed as a roundabout dog

Caricature 2:
Lars Vilks - Response to Islam Threats

Caricature 3:
Lars Vilks - 3 in set of 3 caricatures

Do you think these images warrant a price on his head from Al Qaeda of $100K with a $50K bonus for slitting his throat like lamb? Very similar to the way Van Gogh was murdered? Also, if you watch the video of Lars Vilks, you’ll see that he’s now completely used to the death threats and the hiding he has to go to every night. How right is that. I am also appalled at the lack of police involvement with letting this Muslim mother who has publicly said that she is going to murder him and slit his throat walk around free!!!

Now check this out. You’ll see that these fucking insane Islamic fundamentalist think it’s ok to storm the Danish Embassy, set it on fire and cause the deaths and injuries over a cartoon….a fucking cartoon. Let me say it again: a cartoon.

I just don’t understand the logic. There are tons of jokes about tons of other religions leading to……nothing. Step on the toes of Islam and you get a death warrant issued and your house burned down. Vars drew a caricature – with way more detail i might add – about Jesus being a pedophile with nary a stern written letter. This was just a picture of a guy with a dog’s body. WoW.

I guess I can see the direct correlation between the evolution of this religion and the growth of the Christian/Catholic religions (burning of witches, blah, blah, blah)…if I had to rationalize it in any way. But I have to believe that out there, somewhere, there are some rational Islamic believers that think this isn’t the right course of action. I believe that the rational amount of believers have to far outweigh the fundamentalists and that they should somehow be able to tell the maniacs that it’s not right to slaughter people and burn down buildings because someone drew an offhanded cartoon about your religious leader! I guess only time will tell. I hope that someone realizes that this does their cause no good and trivializes their religion to the point that now all who practice the Islamic faith can be thought of as barbaric psychopaths whose first reaction to something would be to slit your throat.

Tally so far in the name of freedom of speech – unknown dead, 1 in protection, 1 on the run.

I guess only time will tell.

Note:
My apologies for any fowl language that I’ve used. I normally don’t like to swear when I write because I think swearing is the complete lack of the ability to find a proper word. I also believe that it makes the author seem uneducated. I may edit this later and polish the vulgarity out of the paragraphs…maybe.

  • f

    “And among men are those who purchase idle HADITH (tales) without

    knowledge to mislead (men) from the Path of God, and make a mockery of it

    (God’s Path)” [Quran 31: 6]

    What most people do not know is that the Islam they mostly see, hear and

    read about has NOTHING to do with the Koran.

    Traditional Islam is based on 2 important sources: Koran & Hadith. Whats

    Hadith you might ask?

    Hadith is a huge hodgepodge collection of the alleged sayings of Muhammad

    which was compiled 200+ years AFTER the death of Muhammad. Traditional

    Islam derives most of its laws & rules from THIS body of information.

    Traditional Muslims believe that these Hadiths are indispensable to their

    religion & life. So much of importance is paid to these hadiths that very

    often the Koran is ignored.

    And it is from these hadiths that we get extremely nonsensical & barbaric

    rules & laws like death penalty for adulterers & apostates (although the

    Koran does not advocate any such punishment), degradation of women,

    bizarre dress codes for women, killing of those who insult Muhammad,

    chopping of hands of thieves etc. I must mention that hadiths also

    contain many beautiful teachings too. As I said, its a hodge-podge

    collection ridden with internal contradictions.

    Criticism of these fanciful stories in hadiths has always existed right

    from the beginning but very few muslims care to question its

    authenticity. They believe that anyone who rejects hadiths and accepts

    ONLY the Koran is an infidel! You must also realise that most

    translations of the Koran are also done in the light of these hadiths and

    in some cases the original meaning of the Koran is twisted to bring it in

    accord with hadith teachings!

    For more about these hadiths please see:
    http://free-minds.org/hadithhistory

    On the other hand, the Koran is a beautiful book with beautiful

    teachings. You only have to read it once cover to cover to realise this.

  • fsilam

    Fuck Islam and Fuck Mohammed. May all muslims soon disappear.

  • mohammad_ali

    We are muslims never draw jesus or other religion leader into insulting cartoon or wording. But why people outside muslims always do such a thing to muslims?? can u explain that huh??

  • http://www.kjsytle.org James Holmes

    Admittedly, I have never read the Koran and I hope to one day. I heard it's quite a great bit of writing. And you're right, I have never heard of these Hadiths. I thank you for educating me about the difference of these two texts.

    I do stand firm on the fact that I don't agree with the extremist actions for what I believe to be minor slights. Let me state right now that I don't believe in any religion or belief structure that would incite violence over an insult. It's just too much for me to understand I think.

    Thank you for your post!

  • http://www.kjsytle.org James Holmes

    I really don't understand the purpose of this comment. If you're looking to incite a troll war, please take it elsewhere.

    Have a great day.

  • http://www.kjsytle.org James Holmes

    I find it difficult to believe that you or any one else from your belief have NEVER made insulting remarks towards another religion or belief structure.

    I agree with you, people outside of Muslims do such things to Muslim religious figures. They also do it to Christian, Catholic, Indian, insert religious or political figure head here. The fact remains though that bounties for lives or violent retribution haven't been publicly announced by the Pope, the Presidents or the Prime Ministers IF there ever were a cartoon drawn about them or a joke made at their expense.

  • valiantvimal

    Islamic fundamentalists are the evils of earth. These poisonous intolerant barbarians must be eradicated as soon as possible till they reform to normal human beings rather than being stupidest religious fanatics in this 21st century.

  • kishanbhattad

    asshole mohammad_ali your uncle mahummad hussian can draw nude painting of our goddess and u r asking such silly questions

  • Lyle

    I too agree with your sentiment. The word “submission” should be replaced with “bondage” or “slave” instead. Islam, the “religion of peace” is one awfully destructive and suffocating religion. I think were we to talk to Muhammed the prophet in person, he would not recognize what goes for Islam today.

    I would encourage you to withdraw the profanity as it detracts from the power of your message. There are ample colorful, descriptive vocabulary words in the English language one can use to more forcefully illustrate your argument.

  • thermopolisblogger

    The issue is not about religious etiquette. It is about how we should define good and evil, and then live within these principles, these vows.

    I define good as that which nurtures the freedom of life, and evil is that which coerces and controls life. Therefore, we must learn to listen to life in order to determine what nurtures freedom and what results in coercion and control. In so doing, a morality emerges from this listening.

    God did not invent morality; God listened to life and from that listening morality emerged. Because we fail to listen, we fail to live morally. To live according to religious documents (e.g. Koran, Hadith, Bible) or government documents (e.g. US Constitution) is not to live as God lives.

    Listening is a function of communication. Communication is when intention equals impact; MIScommunication is when intention does NOT equal impact. Only through the process of listening can we make sure that communication happens. Listening is one way we do good.

    Anyone who uses God's name to coerce and control life (rather than listening to life) abuses God, and this is far worse than making fun of any of God's prophets.

  • raiderrene

    I love the cartons he drew, he should of had him drinking a beer at a strip joint or smelling another dogs ASS!!!

  • BOB

    FUCK ISLAM, KILL EVERY GOAT FUCKING ONE OF THEM.

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can't understand extremists like this. So what? I'd say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don't kill the animals! They aren't religious! LOL

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can’t understand extremists like this. So what? I’d say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    I get that we have to be tolerant and understanding of all viewpoints from different people, but I agree with you. I can't understand extremists like this. So what? I'd say people who are too overally religious need to find other things to take up their time. This must be the era to hate Muslims/Middle Eastern people/Islam, because they have terrible figures (who are revered, not scolded!).

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don’t kill the animals! They aren’t religious! LOL

  • Raven

    Nooooooooooooo! Don't kill the animals! They aren't religious! LOL

  • http://www.mediumandthemessage.com/ zoeDisco
  • Melvin Cownzowfski

    It is always those who are least capable, mentally speaking, who take offense at hearing the truth. 

  • Melvin Cownzowfski

    It seems always to be the case that those who are most sensitive and reactive to a position other than their own are those with the least amount of facts with which to deal honestly!
    Islam is a FALSE religion, pure and simple, believed-in by those who are either simply deluded or brought-up within its’ evil influence and thereby know no better.